Kamala Harris Reveals the Specific Moment She Knew Something Was ‘Off’ With Joe Biden

Kamala Harris is looking back at the 2024 United States presidential election.

The former vice president, 61, sat down for a wide-ranging conversation with British entrepreneur Steven Bartlett on the Thursday, October 30, installment of the Diary of a CEO podcast, and no question was off the table.

When asked about the first presidential debate between Joe Biden and President Donald Trump held on June 27, 2024, Harris admitted that something wasn’t quite right.

“I was in L.A. at the Fairmont Hotel watching and taking vigorous notes,” Harris explained, adding that she had multiple interviews with the press lined up following that evening’s debate.

Before Biden, 82, went face-to-face with Trump, 79, the 46th U.S. President “called me from debate camp,” Harris explained. “And I could tell something was a little off.”

“I was concerned,” she admitted. “I don’t think he wanted to debate, is my point. He didn’t want that debate. And you know, it’s like any competition. You go in, whether you’re bidding for something, if it’s sports — you’ve got to want it, right? If you don’t want to be in the competition, it will absolutely have an impact on your performance. And I’m pretty sure he did not want to debate.”

When asked by host Bartlett, 33, if there were “signs,” Harris replied, “Well, we had conversations about it. I think he got talked into it.”

That night, Harris recalled, she watched Trump debate Biden, which was largely viewed as the “worst performance in the history of televised presidential debates.”

“In every debate, I don’t care who you are, there will be a statistic wrong or you name this country, but it was that country,” she prefaced. “That always happens. There is no such thing as a perfect debate, so there will be something to clean up — and I expected that. Then, you know, we saw what we all saw.”

Bartlett then said to the former presidential candidate, “It was a car crash. It was a historic car crash.”

In the 2024 presidential election, Trump won the Electoral College with 312 electoral votes to Harris’ 226. Trump also won the popular vote.

During a recent sit-down with the BBC, Harris implied that she may run for the White House once more.

“I am not done,” she said. “I have lived my entire career as a life of service, and it’s in my bones.”